Find Function doesn't work on my Palm TX

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Re: Tulsa

Postby xapie128 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:42 pm

John Moran wrote:Edit:Sorry to be so testy, Xapie128.

No offense taken. It was just that when you began with "I would therefore suggest that in...Tulsa" that you were not "giving a specific example" as you wrote.

If you would have said, "Take Tulsa, for example..." I wouldn't have jumped in. But I got the impression that you were saying that LarryD, or someone else in the thread, was in Tulsa. However, when I did a text search on the page for "Tulsa" I didn't find it in any post, until yours. It wasn't Tulsa that was the problem, it was that it was introduced in such a way that implored the reader to identify its antecedent.
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    Re: Tulsa

    Postby John Moran » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:16 pm

    xapie128 wrote:
    John Moran wrote:Edit:Sorry to be so testy, Xapie128.

    No offense taken. It was just that when you began with "I would therefore suggest that in...Tulsa" that you were not "giving a specific example" as you wrote.

    If you would have said, "Take Tulsa, for example..." I wouldn't have jumped in. But I got the impression that you were saying that LarryD, or someone else in the thread, was in Tulsa. However, when I did a text search on the page for "Tulsa" I didn't find it in any post, until yours. It wasn't Tulsa that was the problem, it was that it was introduced in such a way that implored the reader to identify its antecedent.

      Sigh. Still another grammar lesson from near the Mason-Dixon line. :oops:
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      Re: look what I got from the Delorme Support today!!!!!

      Postby Dan Lawyer » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:21 pm

      John Moran wrote:
      Sorry, Dan, but one does not have to have a PDA to search cutmap HH files for gas stations.

      You can search mapdata any way you want, but if the PDA program can't search it for Gas Stations, then you can't display a list of them.
      Sorry Dan, but your post above categorically stating that the PDAs have no Gas Station category escaped me, as it was apparently posted in the twenty minutes or so that elapsed while I was looking into what, and whether, I was going to post my observations on PDA data content.


      I categorically stated that the program's Find can't display a list of all Gas Stations, not that they aren't there.

      The SA200xHH programs Find Categories are...(since you don't seem to take my word for it)
      - all
      - accommodations
      - Address Book
      - airports
      - educational
      - geo features
      - government
      - health care
      - hwy exits
      - hydro features
      - islands
      - landmarks
      - parks
      - populated places
      - railways
      - recreation
      - restaurants
      - streets/roads
      - trail
      - transportation

      The program can't find gas stations by category, because it doesn't have one.

      We can however, browse around for them at zoom level 15, which is where the POI names display.

      We can also do a Contains or Fuzzy find and enter a name, (ie. Shell, Texaco, etc) and you can find them along with anything else the program throws at you, which includes any address book entry that contains the text you enter, regardless of it's location. If you set it to search within 1 mile, and you have an address book entry for a Texaco station 2 miles away, it will be listed because it doesn't know until you select it and it geo-codes it.

      But if you want to find only or all gas stations, there is no way to do it.

      The question from the customer was.....
      Is there any way to display all gas stations? I cannot find any gas stations unless I search them by name. Other navigation programs will easily show all gas stations in a given area without having to search by name.


      No, you can't display all gas stations. I'm sure he understood my answer.

      Now if you have a text program that can read the DeLorme maps and display a list of all gas stations in a PDA, we would definitely be interested in hearing about it.
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      Re: look what I got from the Delorme Support today!!!!!

      Postby LarryD » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:21 pm

      Dan Lawyer wrote:No, you can't display all gas stations. I'm sure he understood my answer.
      Thanks, Dan. I did understand your answer.
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      Postby John Moran » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:01 pm

      I will neither confirm nor deny that I have read the name of every street and every POI in the Delorme HH cut map of Manchaca, TX, a town with which I am unfamiliar, in a text editor in the last hour.

      But if I had read the name of every street and every POI in a town with which I AM familiar, and I were to venture an opinion, it would remain the same: No one can list ALL the gas stations in a given area using a Delorme HH map data file, inasmuch as said file will probably never contain all the cotton pickin' gas stations in the first place.

      p.s. What's the story on the Buda Methodist Church? Is that some crossover religion?
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      Postby xapie128 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:19 pm

      John Moran wrote:p.s. What's the story on the Buda Methodist Church? Is that some crossover religion?
        cf. Buda, Texas -- about 4 miles south of Manchaca, TX :wink:
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      Postby LarryD » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:32 pm

      John Moran wrote:No one can list ALL the gas stations in a given area using a Delorme HH map data file, inasmuch as said file will probably never contain all the cotton pickin' gas stations in the first place.

      I only expect that a navigation program be able to display the POIs that it does have, with a simple search. I do not expect the POI database to be 100% complete. Since the SA HH version cannot do what I want, that is why I instead use iGuidance. The image shows a results list, by distance, when I searched for "gas".

      I only installed SA HH again because I was curious about Ameridane's search problem. I quickly reminded myself why I do not use SA HH.
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      Postby Ameridane » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:50 pm

      I most admit that Dan L's advice helped my problem using this product. Now I'm going to find out how to make the search results faster. I was told that by moving the map file to the build in memory from flash card should help that issue. If that is the case I'm gonna keep this product.

      I know it got its flaws, but for my purpose I can live with those small things it can't do for me. I guess that only a notebook with the software installed will provide the better solution.

      And I refuse to drive around with a notebook that have to be turned on/off up to 35 times a day and hidden for thieves. A PDA with a few flaws is better solution now that the search function works.

      Thank you very much for your help Dan L.
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      Postby Dan Lawyer » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:48 am

      Glad I was able to help, sorry the topic got off a bit, but that happens around here, as does my getting a bit testy sometimes.
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      Postby smccurdy » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:47 pm

      Ameridane wrote:But isn't it the point that you should be able to search for a new address from any location that you might be? Ex. if you were downtown Manhattan,NY and needed to go to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC that all you had to was to put in address, map(state - map saved ex. on your mem. card) city, radius shouldn't be that important.

      My point is that the more information you can give the better. But if you had only 2 out of 5 pieces of info, the pda should be able to find it for you. Instead it will freeze up or not do anything until the battery is drained for power. To me there should be a better solution than dealing with software that fails to provide.

      As a courier, taxi driver, truck driver it is an important tool so we can skip the map books. Even if the map books are brand new they don't always have the newest addresses in there.

      But if your PDA works great using the find function, then what can I do to make it work? Can't be right that a search have to be at zoom level 15 in the area where the street should be. If all the information you got is street number, street name, city and maybe a company name. Are you supposed to wait for hours then? Next day?

      To me then it means a product that can't deliver. And TS said so in their email response. A refund is coming my way if they can't find a solution to this issue.


      Okay so me Too! Have Palm TX with SA2009+ and BT20 Find pulls up menu and my name (its in the Palm address book) i get a hit BUT when I click on the "GoTo" the following happends "Infromation box" "This Address Book entry could not be geolocated."
      ????????????????
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