Overnight Stops Not Shown in Directions

[desertjim]

Hi Everyone, I've had this software for quite some time, but have never yet learned or used it much at all. BTW, I have used Rand McNally's TripMaker, which I think is excellent, albeit old, discontinued and lacking a lot of stuff folks like to use.

I planned my trip and stops using McNally and then thought I might just as well also insert the info into Streets. I then noticed that I couldn't determine where I had scheduled overnight stops by looking in the directions (as McNally does). I did notice on a separate menu/page, I could see the stopovers, but it didn't tell me anything else, like the total mileage to that place.

I do notice that DeLorme has a lot of features and I would like to be able to learn to use it, but it does seem to have a high learning curve.

Anyway, just for starters, is there a way to see, within the directions, or elsewhere, where (by city) you have scheduled overnight stops along with the mileage. If it doesn't, I'm gonna can it or just use it as a secondary app. If it does, then I'll invest more time and pore over the help/directions files.

I saw it was rated at #2, behind MS. I got the MS, but never have used it nor never have gotten the GPS.

Also, I haven't connected the GPS to DeLorme yet either.

Thanks in advance for any insight provided.

Regards,

Jim

[John Moran_2]

Yep.

But it is possible to create a secondary route to your next stop (or any other POI), even while on the road, that will give you the data to the next Stop without much effort. It is my understanding that you can easily switch back and forth on a computer. I use my PN-40 instead of a computer, however, as I have found I tend to take any turn that suits me instead of a pre-planned route anyway.
Good luck.
JM_2

[desertjim]

Yep??? Meaning that I can view my overnight stops within the directions?? How?

Thanks,

Jim

[John Moran_2]

Yep??? Meaning that I can view my overnight stops within the directions?? How?

Thanks,

Jim

Yep, your synopsis is correct. The directions are not as convenient as it would seem that they could be.
JM_2

[desertjim]

"Yep, your synopsis is correct. The directions are not as convenient as it would seem that they could be".
JM_2

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Well, maybe I'll see how MS Streets and Trips work. So far, this is the most difficult map program I have ever seen.

You'd think they might have learned something from McNally.................way back when the earth was still cooling . I'm not sure for my use that McNally isn't far superior to this one. However, if I want to look for a POI, McNally isn't as convenient.

I dont' want to spend more time trying to decipher this thing than I spend on the road .

Regards,

Jim

[John Moran_2]

The Delorme basic software's routing options far exceed the capabilities of "Streets" at an affordable price. Experienced users can make the software do just about whatever they want with a few right and left button mouse clicks. One area in which the printed and displayed route directions are a little weak is in creating multi-day, multi-leg directions automatically. The route Directions page(s) may seem to contain both too little and too much information simultaneously.

If I did not currently have a gps device for the computer, I would look for a good price on a new PN-30 or PN-40 gps device bundled with Topo8. Delorme Topo8 road routing is on a par with the latest Delorme SA 200xx software and has many other features besides. The PN-30/40 can be used either tethered to the computer or as a standalone device capable of road routing in its own right.

JM_2

[desertjim]

The Delorme basic software's routing options far exceed the capabilities of "Streets" at an affordable price. Experienced users can make the software do just about whatever they want with a few right and left button mouse clicks. One area in which the printed and displayed route directions are a little weak is in creating multi-day, multi-leg directions automatically. The route Directions page(s) may seem to contain both too little and too much information simultaneously.

Yeah, but I don't want to go to the "DeLorme College of Routing" .

If I did not currently have a gps device for the computer, I would look for a good price on a new PN-30 or PN-40 gps device bundled with Topo8. Delorme Topo8 road routing is on a par with the latest Delorme SA 200xx software and has many other features besides. The PN-30/40 can be used either tethered to the computer or as a standalone device capable of road routing in its own right.

We have two GPS devices plus the one that came with DeLorme. Haven't yet hooked it up, but may on our upcoming trip. Neither of our hand held models are updated yet, but that usually doesn't prove to be a problem.

Basically, I like to sit at home and prepare our trip information, as I have done already for our upcoming 4500 mile trip. Once on the road, we don't have to be bothered with it, except to sort of "confirm" what our plans have already told us.

Buy, hey, I've traveled many, many thousand of miles with what used to be called a fold up road map..........you know .........the ones that you can never fold back up properly .

McNally is still the best for my use, apparently, but it is lacking in some areas. Too bad they didn't keep at it. It would be the "best", hands down.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.

Regards,

Jim

[Nedra]

Yeah, but I don't want to go to the "DeLorme College of Routing" .

My step-son had Microsoft S&T and when he tried DeLorme, he stated it was MUCH EASIER to learn. Personally, having worked with multiple programs, including both S&T and SA, I find there's a learning curve to EVERY new program you use and it always seems insurmountable at first, and as it dawns on you how to use the program, it suddenly seems to miraculously become so much easier. It doesn't take a College Course to learn DeLorme, it only takes a positive attitude and positive expectations and curiosity.

We have two GPS devices plus the one that came with DeLorme. Haven't yet hooked it up, but may on our upcoming trip. Neither of our hand held models are updated yet, but that usually doesn't prove to be a problem.

Basically, I like to sit at home and prepare our trip information, as I have done already for our upcoming 4500 mile trip. Once on the road, we don't have to be bothered with it, except to sort of "confirm" what our plans have already told us.

McNally is still the best for my use, apparently, but it is lacking in some areas. Too bad they didn't keep at it. It would be the "best", hands down.
Regards,
Jim

What is your use for your mapping? Are you a full-timer? Do you use it on camping trips or vacations? It sounds like you use it for trips and vacations.

If your trips are long, and you want to follow your mileage daily till you stop for the night, you can set up a trip in segments, Day 1, Day 2, etc.
You just save each day to a specific name, and in the morning, run the new day's trip.

You really should hook up the GPS and try working with it locally before a long trip. It's a bad plan to not learn how to use it with the mapping BEFORE your trip. Good luck, and let me know if you feel my option might work for you.

[desertjim]

What is your use for your mapping? Are you a full-timer? Do you use it on camping trips or vacations? It sounds like you use it for trips and vacations.

If your trips are long, and you want to follow your mileage daily till you stop for the night, you can set up a trip in segments, Day 1, Day 2, etc.
You just save each day to a specific name, and in the morning, run the new day's trip.

You really should hook up the GPS and try working with it locally before a long trip. It's a bad plan to not learn how to use it with the mapping BEFORE your trip. Good luck, and let me know if you feel my option might work for you.

Yes, basically we travel only about two times each year....either to the east or west coast. For the most part we know the trail like the back or our hands, but we want to start venturing "off the beaten path". There's more to RVing than just going visiting, as you well know, but we really haven't taken that much advantage of it................but we are going to do so.

Yeah, it looks like we are gonna have to map out each travel segment. But I don't understand why DeLorme, as good as it's acclaimed, didn't think to program that feature into the directions ? I mean, it seems so fundamental to me! Well, as I said, I have used McNally for years and it does that, so I have come to expect it I guess

We have the GPS system in one of our cars, and It's really great (needs updating, tho). But sitting here behind my computer, I didn't figure the GPS needed to be connected........the house doesn't move much . We're leaving Wed, hopefully, so there isn't much time for playing with the GPS, so I'll just hook it up when we leave. We know where we are going, for the most part, but leaving the beaten path for some "off the route" RV spots, it will come in handy, as will our handheld models. Some spots we want to visit (Thousand Trails) are quite a ways via crooks and bends off the highway.

Yes, I think your suggestions are quite valid and I'll give them a shot, time permitting.

Regards,

Jim

[John Moran_2]

Some spots we want to visit (Thousand Trails) are quite a ways via crooks and bends off the highway.

Yes, I think your [Nedra's] suggestions are quite valid and I'll give them a shot, time permitting.

Regards,
Jim

Jim-
Multi-day routing with Topo8 is rather flexible if you use the available features. I suggest creating two(2) Stops at each overnight destination. The first Stop can use the Time Preference feature to automatically get you to the "End of Day' (midnight). The second Stop can adjust time from Midnight to 7:15AM departure time.

I believe that SA2009 and SA2010 have basically the same stopover features as Topo8. Please see attachments, and have a good trip.
JM_2

[desertjim]

I see you "departing" the campgrounds on your itenerary, but I don't see where it says you "stopped" there .

My wife's looking for the rest of DeLorme right now. If she finds it, I'll hook it up.

BTW, I got something from Good Sam about the new RV Trip Planner, offering a free test drive. However, it apparently isn't out yet, and haven't found when they
expect it. As I recall, I didn't like it either. The 2010 model is supposed to be much better (sure, aren't they all).

I found the GPS. It's the LT-40. I plugged it in to my compter but the software still says NO GPS .

I wonder if DeLorme came with a printed manual. Can't remember. If it did, I have to do some more hunting .

Regards,

Jim